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17/09/2015 15:39:11

CloudNinja
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Hi - I see that my PC really becomes sluggish & needs to reboot whenever I render or make a video; also some scenes seem to take forever to load...I've read the recommended specs here: https://www.muvizu.com/Wiki/wiki/52/troubleshooting-recommended-computer-specifications - but unfortunately, I'm not a true geek :0).


Below are my PC's specs, could anyone be kind enough to recommend what I can do to significantly increase my PCs performace so that I don't have to reboot, can load or render scenes faster, etc?


My PC specs:
- Win 8.1 64 bit
- Processor: AMD A10-6700 APU with Radeon HD Graphics 3.70 GHz
- RAM: 8G
- Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GT 630
- DirectX vers 11


thoughts?
Appreciation in advance,
.cn
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17/09/2015 16:24:56

ukBertyMuvizu mogulExperimental user
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I used to think that it was all in the graphics card, but recently I've noticed my CPU takes a bit of a beasting as well. I'm also fairly sure that since we've had the updates with layers the whole thing takes more resource (which is fair enough - you don't get anything for nothing). I've tried running the whole thing off SSD but it made surprisingly little difference.

Don't forget the top tip about copying away your fresh install and then regularly reverting back to it to maintain the speed of set loading.

So I would predict it's mainly the video card - http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+630 - it's not looking that quick. Upgrading the CPU may also help, but it's harder.

Hope this helps.
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17/09/2015 17:36:23

CloudNinja
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ukBerty - Very helpful - esp. the link to the video card benchmark so I now I have better context - thank you!
The question now becomes, what models would I need to upgrade to make a noticeable difference? Is there a huge difference to spend $800 for a top of the line GTX 980 or $250 for the GeForce GTX 680 (which is the next level of upgrade from my GT 630 in the G3D mark top 10)?


thoughts?
.cn
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17/09/2015 19:11:34

MrDrWho13Muvizu mogulExperimental user
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ukBerty's pretty much given you the rundown here.
The first thing I noticed is that you have an APU (Which is a processor built to focus on the graphics) and a graphics card which is an unusual combination since half the APU will be rendered useless when you use your GPU (Graphics card) (That's as far as my understand goes anyway). So if you plan to upgrade your whole PC in the future, keep this in mind

However, your CPU (processor) seems pretty good in terms of cores and clock speed.

Onto the GPU which is the main problem here:
Muvizu is very reliant on the GPU since it's based on the Unreal game engine. By no means do you have to run out and buy a top of the range Titan X or anything, but you need something with a bit more oomph. Anything that's got GTX in the name should do, and the top rated card on amazon is the GTX 750ti: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nvidia-GeForce-Graphics-GDDR5-PCI-Express/dp/B00ICUGOP0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1442512773&sr=8-1&keywords=gpu

CloudNinja wrote:
The question now becomes, what models would I need to upgrade to make a noticeable difference? Is there a huge difference to spend $800 for a top of the line GTX 980 or $250 for the GeForce GTX 680 (which is the next level of upgrade from my GT 630 in the G3D mark top 10)?

The list on the benchmark site is just showing your card in comparison to the most popular cards, rather than giving you a representation of what's the next step.

Personally I have an AMD HD7770 2GB (Or R7 250X as the re-branded model is called) which works perfectly well.

I've found that the CPU is used when opening your sets and the GPU is used for everything else.

Oh an additional note - the only way to really increase the loading times for sets is probably to get an SSD, a better CPU (You'll have to change motherboard for this), or both.
edited by MrDrWho13 on 17/09/2015
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17/09/2015 21:28:41

ukBertyMuvizu mogulExperimental user
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MrDrWho13 wrote:
the only way to really increase the loading times for sets is probably to get an SSD


I actually tried that MrDrWho and it made no difference. It's not the reading off the disk it's the displaying which seems to hold things up, so I think it's pretty much GPU all the way.
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18/09/2015 01:13:53

mystoMuvizu mogulExperimental user
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In my personal experience, the better the CPU and GPU (mainly the GPU) you have the better Muvizu will run.
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18/09/2015 19:37:23

CloudNinja
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Thanks everyone - this was EXTREMELY helpful!
@MDW13 - yes, my APU & graphics card are in conflict - my graphics card overides my APU.
Thanks again!
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20/09/2015 00:29:56

DanimalMuvizu mogulExperimental user
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All this talk of graphics cards is making me want to get a new one. Thanks a lot for the advice! And for pushing me to buy something I really don't need! laugh
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25/09/2015 14:24:30

DanimalMuvizu mogulExperimental user
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...which I did do. GTX 750 Ti (2GB) which should be here today. Maybe with that I won't be so afraid of using some of these new features! Thanks again!
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25/09/2015 19:28:09

MrDrWho13Muvizu mogulExperimental user
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Danimal wrote:
...which I did do. GTX 750 Ti (2GB) which should be here today. Maybe with that I won't be so afraid of using some of these new features! Thanks again!

Let us know how it goes!
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25/09/2015 23:11:07

DanimalMuvizu mogulExperimental user
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Night and day, that's how! My old version ran at 24 FPS and the beta versions at a pitiful 9 FPS. With the new cards they're up to 55 FPS! I never knew the program was supposed to look so smooth! Thanks again for the advice.
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07/12/2015 14:11:52

Danimal69
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reading this forum as a Newbie was very helpfull. below are my specs and was wondering, can i get a GTX 750 for a laptop? my scenes are very sluggish when im directing.

Drive: C:
Free Space: 234.2 GB
Total Space: 290.2 GB

Time of this report: 12/3/2015, 20:30:31
Machine name: LAURIE-PC
Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 10240) (10240.th1_st1.151104-1714)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
System Model: K50IJ
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU T4400 @ 2.20GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 3072MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 3038MB RAM
Page File: 2475MB used, 3633MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
Miracast: Not Available
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
DxDiag Version: 10.00.10240.16384 64bit Unicode
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07/12/2015 15:19:17

MrDrWho13Muvizu mogulExperimental user
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Well, no, sorry.
Laptops don't have the same expandibily as desktops especially regarding CPUs and GPUs. Your two options are either buying a new laptop or upgrading/buying a desktop PC.
Personally I'd suggest the desktop option, since there's a bit more room to upgrade if you don't mind giving up a bit of portability.

To help ease the lag on your current laptop you could press f12 to disable lighting.
edited by MrDrWho13 on 07/12/2015
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