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11/05/2013 03:35:23

Dwarf
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Posts: 133 		Hi all Muvizuers,

When I tried to put a video on a wall, a big fatal error message happend:

I wish so much that you know how to fix that !!!

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11/05/2013 15:55:31

WozToonsExperimental user
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Posts: 494 		I had a similar problem for 64bit Play. I uninstalled the K-Lite 64bit codec pack, completely removed all Muvizu and restarted. Then reinstalled 64bit PLAY and now it works fine. This may be your issue or not as you only gave a bit of info but worth a try.
edited by WozToons on 11/05/2013
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11/05/2013 18:33:51

DreekoMuvizu mogulExperimental user
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Posts: 1257 		Hi!


I used to make a spoof news series called "On the News" which included a few background videos (Sky News style!) The 32bit issue came to my notice when I could no longer open the relevant sets for my series. The reason for this was down to the fact that I was now using the 64bit Muvizu.


If your version of Muvizu Play is 64bit and you are importing video which has been rendered by a 32 bit program then you will have trouble.

Hope this helps

Cheers
D
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12/05/2013 00:34:01

Dwarf
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Posts: 133 		I will try to install the k-lite 64 bit and I will restart everything,

Thank you !
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12/05/2013 01:53:37

Dwarf
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Posts: 133 		It doesn't work
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12/05/2013 02:34:22

ziggy72Muvizu mogulExperimental user
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Posts: 1988 		Try installing the klite 32bit pack first, then the 64bit one on top of that, and then re-encode the video. Remember, on a 64bit system you actually need both packs to make sure everything works (and it mostly will. Mostly ).
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12/05/2013 15:17:56

DreekoMuvizu mogulExperimental user
Dreeko
Posts: 1257 		Or do it the other way round!
Install the 32 bit version of Muvizu! Instead!
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12/05/2013 15:56:45

Dwarf
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Posts: 133 		Ok I will try that
Thank you both
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12/05/2013 18:36:10

Dwarf
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Posts: 133 		I tried, and it almost worked.
I covert my video with bink video conventer to a .avi file and when I input it in the wall, I SAW THE IMAGE OF THE VIDEO !
But, the problem is that the video isn't moving, I only see the same image everytime :P


I know it's Sunday, but I really need your help !
edited by Dwarf on 12/05/2013
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12/05/2013 18:54:02

ziggy72Muvizu mogulExperimental user
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Posts: 1988 		What type of avi? The internal codec matters, y'see. I usually find that the Divx AVI codec works best for Muvizu. Does Binx give you those sort of options? If not, see if there's an advanced output/options bit to change it.
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12/05/2013 18:59:06

urbanlamb
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Posts: 1786 		is it like that when you render? because it often doesnt show real movement until the render. Myself I use plain old microsoft avi even though its huge. I never really got to be friends with the video option inside muvizu unless it was for an effect like water. I found the video output muddy for other things and turned to green screen chroma key for most things.

divx never worked for me lol.
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12/05/2013 19:01:37

ziggy72Muvizu mogulExperimental user
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Posts: 1988 		Managing codecs is like trying to push jelly uphill. Or eating soup with a fork. It's a fight, Dwarf, always is
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12/05/2013 19:28:01

DreekoMuvizu mogulExperimental user
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Posts: 1257 		I use ffdshow's mjpeg codec for video on backdrops etc It works a treat!

Xvid is useless for it and is also terrible for editing!
edited by Dreeko on 12/05/2013
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12/05/2013 19:41:16

ziggy72Muvizu mogulExperimental user
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Posts: 1988 		Exactly Dreeko - each PC seems to like/dislike codecs according to the position of the planets or something...
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12/05/2013 19:44:53

urbanlamb
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Posts: 1786 		so the answer to the question is "trial and error until you find what works for you" haha basically. I find that everyone is different on what they find to work. I got tired of litering my pc with codecs and decided on a plan of action that "works for me" but I dont think there is any single all encompassing solution for this issue and I have encountered it elsewhere rearing its magical twisted obscure head of wierdness. I have come to the conclusion that its also linked with hardware for instance i have digital camera codecs for a canon that now renders video and a webcam and find that the thing that works for me best (this year) is the codecs that came with the webcam for most things. It plays nice with the rest of my pc
edited by urbanlamb on 12/05/2013
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13/05/2013 01:30:40

Dwarf
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Posts: 133 		It's an hard fight, but I'm sure I will pass trought it :P
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13/05/2013 03:05:48

Dwarf
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Posts: 133 		I will cry (joke)
I tried all the codec I saw : K-lite, K-lite (64), Xvid, but each time I export the video I wanna put on my wall in AVI, I saw only an image on my wall, NO MOVE ONLY AN image. I'm sure that my .avi is problematic

I will tell you what I did :

1-I used VirtualDub to convert my .Avi to a .avi compressed xvid file
2-Go on Muvizu
3-Create a wall
4-Edit the wall
5-Choose the video
6-Crying (because I only see 2 images successively)

If you know whats my problem, I will be SO HAPPY !
edited by Dwarf on 13/05/2013
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13/05/2013 04:19:21

urbanlamb
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Posts: 1786 		did you render the video clip you used the file in? because you wont always see the moving inside muvizu or are you just trying to watch the movie inside muvizu? if the clip is long it wont move well.
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13/05/2013 12:05:30

Dwarf
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Posts: 133 		Yes, I tried to render,
But when I open the video (the rendered video) , I only see my background, who doesn't move
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13/05/2013 16:00:03

ziggy72Muvizu mogulExperimental user
ziggy72
Posts: 1988 		Dwarf, one thing you haven't told us - what length is the AVI file? What dimensions, file size, etc?
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13/05/2013 16:08:50

urbanlamb
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Posts: 1786 		Yes it should work with standard AVI no special "wrappers" as they call them. If the clip is long its hard to get it to run. Anyhow you should have success using the codecs that muvizu installs by default (microsoft standard) . I am unsure why its not working. My only guess is that your trying to use it with a wrapper encoding which is very hit and miss. I can get huge avi files to run inside muvizu but the resolution is terrible and they are washed out on the background.

I guess I am wondering (since I can tell you have used a video editor in your last video) why you dont just use chroma keying. The results are superior anyhow and you wont spend 3 weeks trying to solve the dark arts of codecs which dont mix well

Really the avi on a background is really only good for short looping videos a few seconds long anything else its very hard to get it to run. I did run a cartoon on a tv set once but the set was very small and I didnt need huge quality as a result of the usage. For anything that is HD you can only really use a few seconds of avi clip before it gets too large for muvizu to handle.
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13/05/2013 21:33:19

Dwarf
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Posts: 133 		The file is big (like 20 MB fir the video) because the video last like 1.5 minute
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13/05/2013 21:52:43

Dwarf
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Posts: 133 		I would like SO MUCH to do chroma key and I KNOW that this is a better way to do want I want, but I don't know any FREEEEEEE program that could allow me to do that.

I also have a limited internet download by month, so the only software I found was too big for me, but if you have suggestions, I would be interrested A LOT (don't forget that I'm only a beginner in Movies :P )

Thank you
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14/05/2013 21:41:56

urbanlamb
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Posts: 1786 		okay I had asked this before as I saw you using what appeared to be an editor in your school movie anyhow there are some options

here is one

http://www.lwks.com/index.php?option=com_docman&gid=8&task=cat_view&Itemid=189

you can also do a lot of work using the youtube editor as well but likely not green screen

here is a blog list with a few more some of which I have seen before

http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/video-editing-30-free-tools-and-web-services-to-get-things-done/

I saw a few more on this forum if you use the search function you will probably get more info

The first video editor I ever used was made by avs4you and i still use some of the tools in that package it was super cheap. Anyhow I hope that helps. I saw you use an editor as i have stated in a previous post and asked you then about it

anyhow good luck. If your trying to use muvizu for this your limited to small clips that you can loop
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14/05/2013 21:58:30

Dwarf
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Posts: 133 		Thank you a lot Urbanlamb, I enjoy the wronk you did for me
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