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21/09/2010 07:21:35

Than
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Is it technicaly feasable to render into one of the 3D modes for use with looking at it with 3D glasses?
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21/09/2010 08:45:55

glasgowjim
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Like this? Or do you mean the new style of 3D?



Edit: Huh, that's weird - when you watch it on YouTube the images are shown like a normal 3D broadcast, but in the embedded player they are shown separately.....
edited by glasgowjim on 9/21/2010
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21/09/2010 10:23:00

tripfreakExperimental user
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That's because I had to upload the video side by side to enable the 3D option (additional 3D button below the video) in Youtube by adding 3D tags.
Please read my hints answering Emily and the instructions from Youtube: Here
I used the StereoMovie Maker by Muttyan, a very cool and simple free program: Link here
Of course, you can also directly export the video as color anaglyph.

Furthermore, you can use this program for other nice effects (together with virtualdub).
I already thought about a short tutorial but as always I'm very limited in time at the moment.

There's maybe another 3D option here: Link
But I haven't checked this.
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21/09/2010 11:14:54

Mach
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very interesting 3D test. It would be great to know a bit more details on how you get it to work.
A tutorial would be very helpful. Hope you find some time soon.
Have you placed 2 cameras in Muvizu and how have you done that to get good 3D.
Getting 2 cameras aligned for 3D doesn't look easy because fine control is not that easy.
Or have you just rendered a single camera and made it 3D with that editor tool?
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21/09/2010 12:42:25

Than
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That's interesting, but I suppose I mean't render a movie such that it appears 3D while wearing 3D glasses (perhaps the ones with green and blue tints) without having to do anything else except choose a 3D option on the render movie.

But perhaps the above shows a better way?
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21/09/2010 16:00:07

Mach
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Just a 3D render won't work. The 3D effect (depth effect) has to be adjusted for every shot.
So to get it right there has to be a special 3D camear with the right adjustments (seperation and
convergence settings). With this set for every camera shot this can be then rendered in different formats
like dual streams, side by side, or direct analglyph to be viewed with the red/blue glasses.
It would be great if Muvizu will implement that sometimes in the future.
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21/09/2010 17:01:43

NeilExperimental userMuvizu staff
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It's something we've talked about quite a bit at Muvizu HQ and it's something that I'd personally love to get working. I think it's a relatively simple thing to implement and can have a huge impact if done properly. I think we'll definitely get onto to it one day, but at the moment we're busy working flat out on all the other stuff you keep asking for.

In the meantime, please keep discussing it and throwing us any ideas about how you'd like to see it working. When we eventually get a Round Tuit we'll look here for your input.
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21/09/2010 17:49:44

DreekoMuvizu mogulExperimental user
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love the round tuit link

I know someone whos gonna get one of them!
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21/09/2010 20:59:22

NeilExperimental userMuvizu staff
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Dreeko wrote:
love the round tuit link

I know someone whos gonna get one of them!

Is it us?
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23/09/2010 12:49:28

tripfreakExperimental user
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@Than,
That's interesting, but I suppose I mean't render a movie such that it appears 3D while wearing 3D glasses (perhaps the ones with green and blue tints) without having to do anything else except choose a 3D option on the render movie.

I don't know if it's possible to insert flashs in the forum, but you can watch the video directly in 3D on my webpage (here). If interested, you can even download the set there or here.
It's nothing spectacular - i just wanted to set different distance levels.
StereoMovieMaker is able to export stereo videos in many different formats.

@mach,
Just a 3D render won't work. The 3D effect (depth effect) has to be adjusted for every shot.
So to get it right there has to be a special 3D camera with the right adjustments (seperation and
convergence settings).

I don't know if you are satisfied with the result, but I didn't adjust anything at all (although you are able to do so in the StereoMovie Maker).
I simply placed 2 cams exactly side by side as shown in this picture:

filmed the whole scene with both and joined them with the StereoMovie Maker.

@Neil,
It's something we've talked about quite a bit at Muvizu HQ and it's something that I'd personally love to get working. I think it's a relatively simple thing to implement ..

In the latest iClone version they implemented different versions:

and also a convergence slider for the adjustment.
I'm not sure how it works but I think during the export they probably added a 2nd virtual cam besides the main camera ?
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23/09/2010 17:38:48

Mach
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great you got the cameras aligned in parallel that no further adjustment is needed.
But it is not easy to get convergence set this way. You only can toe-in the cameras, but then
the two filmed shots get distorted and is not that easy to adjust for that.
iClone has a parameter for convergence which is great, but there is no adjustment for camera seperation, which is important as well. And as I said before, these parameters has to be adjusted on the camera and not just for the final render. These settings need to be tweaked for every shot seperatly.
For everyone who really would either implement or make any movie in 3D should read:
3D Movie Making: Stereoscopic Digital Cinema from Script to Screen by
Bernard Mendiburu.
It's the best book I've found on the topic so far.
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