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Message from dwino

Thu, 21 Jun 2012 03:24:37 GMT

Great to hear about props!

I'll be so excited to see this in action. And likely non-Muvizu users will be excited too! They will certainly cease to use their current Machinima-related products and enthusiastically use Muvizu when the characters can hold props.

This is the last major puzzle piece before Muvizu becomes complete.

Sure there might be minor tweaking and innovative improvements, but Muvizu will have addressed all the necessities.

Message from Marco_D

Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:12:41 GMT

bigwally wrote:

Nick Danger needs a gun!

I thought he needed a shoe

Message from MrDrWho13

Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:58:03 GMT

bigwally wrote:

Nick Danger needs a gun!

Message from budunha

Fri, 01 Jun 2012 00:17:56 GMT

I'm waiting to make a cowboy movie soon

Message from bigwally

Thu, 31 May 2012 23:41:11 GMT

Nick Danger needs a gun!

Message from Dylly

Thu, 31 May 2012 21:16:21 GMT

Barry? Are we there yet?

Message from MrDrWho13

Thu, 31 May 2012 20:23:17 GMT

Dreeko wrote:

barrys wrote:

You're all 100% right to want this and 100% right to keep on our backs.

I promise you guys that we'll tackle the 'holding' issue soon. Really, honestly, I promise.

This thread has kicked off an internal email discussion so we ARE talking about it. We may be able to look at this issue v. soon.

Barry

Exciting stuff, Hurrah!
edited by Dreeko on 31/05/2012

Message from Dreeko

Thu, 31 May 2012 20:20:06 GMT

barrys wrote:

Exciting stuff, Hurrah!
edited by Dreeko on 31/05/2012

Message from MrDrWho13

Thu, 31 May 2012 19:57:33 GMT

WozToons wrote:

Good news.

Message from WozToons

Thu, 31 May 2012 17:45:58 GMT

Good news.

Message from barrys

Thu, 31 May 2012 15:40:57 GMT

Message from dwino

Tue, 29 May 2012 21:10:05 GMT

Message from dwino

Thu, 24 May 2012 20:28:28 GMT

I second the idea of giving a few props that are cuff attachments, then we can rotate them over and get them in the hand. After that we would just need some arm movements that simulate using a variety of props (and some hand poses with those arm movements).

This would keep Muvizuers happy for a while. Now I've heard in the past that you aren't crazy about temporary fixes, but if it's just a wrist accessory I think that's fair game and won't create compatibility issues for future of Muvizu since you can just leave them! Muvizu is cartoony anyway, how silly and fun is it to have a beer mug or a football on a wrist? Seriously it's high time these characters have been given something to hold other than a guitar. I mean too many times I've seen Muvizu movies where the author had to dance around the subject in their story and it sticks out like a sore thumb!

Message from MrDrWho13

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:48:13 GMT

toonarama wrote:

Fantastic idea - especially if we can include an arm which is texturable/colourable

Yeah!

Message from Danimal

Tue, 10 Apr 2012 16:28:19 GMT

I'd really be happy with just a few attachments. We've got 15 shirt cuffs, how about a pencil? Or a cup? Or a phone? Things people do in fact hold constantly? We've seen it's possible to attach items, I would love to see this happen. I couldn't care less about characters picking up and interacting with objects because I still find even the most basic camera movement an exercise in fury, but to at least have them already holding stuff would be great.

Message from EEFilmz

Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:52:51 GMT

Thanks Skylike ! will do 8) - EEF

TO LIE DOWN:
go to prepare character actions
click on the empty slot
click on themes
click on pose (in this folder has all the lying down actions)

Hope that helps, if you likes that one check out the whole series oh yeh and subscribe
edited by EEFilmz on 10/04/2012

Message from skylike

Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:58:19 GMT

EEFilmz wrote:

That was great and hilarious skyline, How did you get your characters to lay down? (still new to Muvizu here) - EEF

skylike wrote:

You know we did it better luscan lol..

TO LIE DOWN:
go to prepare character actions
click on the empty slot
click on themes
click on pose (in this folder has all the lying down actions)

Hope that helps, if you likes that one check out the whole series oh yeh and subscribe

Message from EEFilmz

Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:29:49 GMT

That was great and hilarious skyline, How did you get your characters to lay down? (still new to Muvizu here) - EEF

skylike wrote:

You know we did it better luscan lol..

Message from skylike

Mon, 09 Apr 2012 13:06:05 GMT

You know we did it better luscan lol..

Message from EEFilmz

Mon, 09 Apr 2012 01:13:13 GMT

glasgowjim wrote:

Hi Effster,

At present you cannot create custom attachments for the characters - I know it's one of the things that the team are wanting to add, but there isn't a timescale for it yet.

Happy Easter, and 'mon the Zombie Jesus!
-Jim

LOL

Message from glasgowjim

Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:36:36 GMT

Message from EEFilmz

Sun, 08 Apr 2012 10:19:11 GMT

jonbez wrote:

Being able to import an attachment object with the offset options avalible would be cool in future versions. The systems already there for guitar mic and drumsticks. Even better would be the option to attach to any bone on the character. We could make are own mask and hats as well as object to hold.

HI New Guy here - I agree wth this post because i am wondering How to "attach" an object like a box or cone or a stove (OvenMan) or something to a character that protrudes out from the body that he can "wear" as a "costume" because I already have a character I want to recreate in Muvizu in the future, and I am still learning the basics too ...So if anyone has any ideas ? can you sculpt something 3d and import/attach or is that in development? - like I saw the spacerobot guy and monster characters and thought man it's like that almost but I have no idea what to do to create something 3d that a character can wear! - Please Help? Thanks Everyone!! Happy Easter from the EEFster!! lol

Message from dwino

Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:14:24 GMT

I do appreciate the thorough response. I get that it's not a straight forward response. I hope it transpires more smoothly than expected. Cheers.

Message from Luscan

Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:45:29 GMT

Object interaction is a tough nut to crack. It's something that we're working hard on but it's not just as simple as having code like

10 PICK UP OBJECT
20 USE OBJECT

Because of the way that objects are built and how our characters are built we need to be able to tell a character where to hold an object and how to hold the object. We're trying to get it right so that characters hands hold objects in ways that seem realistic (so they'll hold a coffee mug differently from how they'll hold a broom) and we need to find a way to make holding things with two hands work differently from holding things with one hand (how can we get a character to walk around carrying a heavy box that needs both hands or a stack of pillows that needs both hands but is also really light).

The scale is an important factor to consider as well. If something's really huge then we don't want that object to go through the floor or through other objects or through the character. Animating the movement of arms is also another big hurdle for us because a character who's walking around with briefcase isn't going to walk with both arms swinging backwards and forwards without a care to the weight. Also when they animate with a movement that brings their hand up to their face what's going to stop the object from going through the characters face?

Basically what I'm trying to say is there's a bunch of things that make this a challenge but we're not holding out on you or something. When we have something we're happy with I'm sure more will be said on the subject.

Message from dwino

Fri, 30 Mar 2012 02:33:26 GMT

Just following up with the Muvizu staff on this.

Where are you at with prop handling?

Message from wizplace

Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:00:12 GMT

Why can't we have a gun? What's so wrong with that?

Message from dwino

Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:25:02 GMT

Great model and graphic Dylly! Thanks for sharing. Oh how I wish for prop handling in Muvizu.

Where are you at with this Muvizu? This is a sincere question. No jokes or youtube videos, please...just honesty back.

Thanks!

Message from budunha

Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:58:49 GMT

The problem is not to make the pistol and the hand in 3D, the problem is animating it and move on muvizu. If we could create points of bones to insert other objects is that it was good, but it seems to be a bit complicated.

Message from ziggy72

Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:46:38 GMT

Dylly wrote:

Got distracted by an idea. Very much a work in progress but I hope you can see where I'm going with this prop. It will just be a hand an arm holding a gun...however my keeping the basic geometry of the sketchup model I should be able to adapt it to hold just about anything for a scene...although very much like a Gerry Anderson Thunderbirds shot. Let me know what you think?

(I didn't need to include this previous post, but I just like seeing this picture )

It's a brilliant idea, and at least gives us a workaround that will look better than any way we can do it now. And, like ukBerty said, as long as you can add the hand model and the object together as one in Sketchup, you can animate it in Muvizu. And phones...you don't need to see their elbows, just an arm and hand holding it to their ear. Dylly, could you do a phone version of the hand too? You've got me thinking now!

Message from jonbez

Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:27:34 GMT

Message from toonarama

Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:42:35 GMT

Fantastic idea - especially if we can include an arm which is texturable/colourable

Message from ukBerty

Wed, 29 Feb 2012 06:35:01 GMT

Dylly - This is a great idea. Just zoom into your character and stick the false arm holding the thing statically in front of them.

At present we all do this by putting objects in the air and positioning characters real arms, but if you turn their heads their body and arms will also move - leaving the object in mid air.

This will allow us to move characters around whilst appearing to hold things, as long as you keep the shots tight.

If we had the arm able to be imported into sketchup we could all stick our own objects together with the arm/hand as one model. This would allow the whole arm/object to be moved around as one in Muvizu.

Love it.

Message from Dylly

Wed, 29 Feb 2012 01:23:09 GMT

Message from dwino

Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:28:47 GMT

Honestly, guns are okay...but it's more important to have basic props. Like a pencil. One darned pencil would be nice. Maybe a genie lamp, but more so a pencil. I get that it's not necessarily straight forward, but we all know you can pick up and put down stuff in the Unreal Engine. There's plenty of games using Unreal that can do this.

And then the fact that you guys have had musical instruments for some odd months is a little off-putting and disheartening (despite the instruments being stuck-on).

Tell Vince to let real-life Muvizu employees start holding computer mice again! Not only that tell him to allow you all to pick up your coffee mugs and hopefully find the 'Prop Handling' post-it note! That will fix this "working on it" syndrome!

Message from Luscan

Mon, 09 Jan 2012 10:36:13 GMT

Tend to post this every time someone asks for guns in Muvizu.

budunha wrote:

But programmers MUVIZU, could make a paid version at around 30 to 50 €, which was already semi-professional movements for arms, horses, ability to add characters from other 3D software and have the movements in MUVIZU automatically. Movements with cutlery, glasses, ... Just program to get the object added by hand. Maybe even earned some more money, it was good for them and for us.

Muvizu is free to use and will be staying free to use.

I'm afraid that there's more to the issue of characters holding objects than just throwing programmers at the problem until it goes away. We have brilliant programmers here in Muvizu towers and we're always trying to push technology and make it do things that it finds a little difficult and holding objects is no different. I know it's annoying to hear but we really are working on it
edited by Luscan on 09/01/2012

Message from budunha

Sun, 08 Jan 2012 15:17:16 GMT

dwino wrote:

Well, the reason Muvizu doesn't have props/weapons is because the real-life Muvizu employees aren't allowed to hold a mouse while programming. They aren't even allowed to hand off or plug USB drives into their computers and share information. I'm not even sure if they can pick up their coffee mugs anymore. All they have are post-it notes on a board that they can nudge around with their noses. In fact, the post it- marked "Prop Handling" is stuck to the bottom of one of the coffee mugs. This slows the whole development process down a tad. I'm not sure why, but that's the case.

lol
I agree.

But programmers MUVIZU, could make a paid version at around 30 to 50 €, which was already semi-professional movements for arms, horses, ability to add characters from other 3D software and have the movements in MUVIZU automatically. Movements with cutlery, glasses, ... Just program to get the object added by hand. Maybe even earned some more money, it was good for them and for us.

Message from mysto

Sun, 08 Jan 2012 13:16:47 GMT

ziggy72 wrote:

http://www.muvizu.com/Video/16210/A-Fistful-Of-Coders

Says it all, really.

edited by pyrrho on 09/01/2012

Message from dwino

Sun, 08 Jan 2012 04:31:22 GMT

Message from budunha

Sat, 07 Jan 2012 23:54:22 GMT

Very cool, the video

But even the lack interactivity with weapons.
Let's see if soon, we can use the weapons in muvizu.

Message from ziggy72

Sat, 07 Jan 2012 23:16:17 GMT

http://www.muvizu.com/Video/16210/A-Fistful-Of-Coders
Says it all, really.
edited by pyrrho on 09/01/2012

Message from budunha

Sat, 07 Jan 2012 21:25:47 GMT

mysto wrote:

With the exception of being able to hold musical objects (guitars, microphones, drum sticks, etc.) Muvizu doesn't allow the characters to hold guns or other objects. Characters being able to hold other objects has been on our "wish list" for awhile now.

Ok...
Thank u.

But before he had the futuristic weapons in muvizu.

Message from mysto

Sat, 07 Jan 2012 03:14:14 GMT

Message from budunha

Sat, 07 Jan 2012 02:34:18 GMT

Hello everyone

How do I put a gun in the hand of a character? and how the effect of bullets coming out?
Has a gun in the holster, but i can not use. Does anyone know how to put a gun in his hand?

I wanted to make a short film "cowboys"

Is there a tutorial?

thank you,

Micael.