Forum - Feedback - Colour picker/eyedropper - Messages http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Forum - Feedback - Colour picker/eyedropper - Messages en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Jitbit AspNetForum Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:30:50 GMT Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:30:50 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from Danimal Dreeko wrote:
As interfaces go, it's got to be one of the easiest to pick up you have to admit..


I had a cartoon made in about an hour after first downloading it. I love the interface. I love that it uses the keyboard. I love the array of actions and moods. I love the automatic lipsyncing.

The movement, however, causes me to cringe even just to think about it. I've gotten to be about 5% good at character movement. Object and camera movement, I'd put myself at the negative end of that scale. At least you can use the keyboard for that too, as little good as it ever does me.]]> Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:30:50 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from mysto Dreeko wrote:
Danimal wrote:
I can just see it: I'll finally get used to the quirky camera and character movement and--BAM--a whole new quirky interface to learn.laugh


As interfaces go, it's got to be one of the easiest to pick up you have to admit..

It's hardly Maya!


Yes, the Muvizu interface is one of the easiest to figure out and learn fairly quickly. I remember when I first started using the program that it only took me an hour or so to figure out where things where and what they did.

I've been using Maya and other programs for quite awhile and still haven't figured out everything about the UI yet. Granted, Muvizu "aint no Maya" but on the other hand Maya "aint no Muvizu" either!]]> Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:13:29 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from Dreeko Danimal wrote:
I can just see it: I'll finally get used to the quirky camera and character movement and--BAM--a whole new quirky interface to learn.laugh


As interfaces go, it's got to be one of the easiest to pick up you have to admit..

It's hardly Maya!]]> Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:33:21 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from Danimal finally get used to the quirky camera and character movement and--BAM--a whole new quirky interface to learn.laugh]]> Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:50:28 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from Neil
Essentially, the new UI has been a huge technical hurdle which has taken most of my time and effort. There are so many new features that I want to incorporate that sadly, some of them aren't going to be finished in time. But don't worry, they won't be forgotten and will be steadily included over the next few releases.]]> Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:31:13 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from simonheffer Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:37:08 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from Dreeko simonheffer wrote:
So is this in then (as the OP was in Feb)? 'cos I just thought about an eyedropper tool too!
Another suggested way of doing this (I know, too late!) would be a custom colour set.



The new UI has still to make an appearance, but when it does I'm sure it will bring some cool features with it. What they will be is still anyone's guess (apart from Neil!)]]> Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:29:15 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from simonheffer Another suggested way of doing this (I know, too late!) would be a custom colour set.]]> Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:22:08 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from jonbez Neil wrote:
You'll be pleased to hear I've just got drag-and-drop working with colours in the new UI.



Great work neil.]]> Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:31:59 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from Neil Dreeko wrote:
...was it something you said Emily? dunno

I was going to say that she didn't say please, but as it turns out, neither did you. :p

I should probably poiint out that these new UI features are extremely unlikely to make it into the next release of Muvizu, unfortunately. The UI work is a complete rewrite and as such won't be finished and tested until after the engine upgrade is complete.

Sorry about that, but I promise* it'll be worth the wait.



* - Look, an actual promise. Weird, huh?]]> Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:52:29 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from Dreeko Emily wrote:
Hey Ziggy & Dreeko - this is a feature I have been requesting for over a year!


I asked two days ago and now...

...Neil wrote:
You'll be pleased to hear I've just got drag-and-drop working with colours in the new UI.

So you'll be able to use the mouse to literally drag the colour property off of one edit dialog and drop it onto a colour property of another. I'll add this same functionality to the texture properties.


...was it something you said Emily? dunno

PS: seriously though, well done Neil!
edited by Dreeko on 10/02/2011]]> Wed, 09 Feb 2011 23:54:04 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from ziggy72 To everyone else I'm sure it'll just be a nice little feature!
edited by ziggy72 on 09/02/2011]]> Wed, 09 Feb 2011 22:02:41 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from Neil Neil wrote:
I've been thinking about what I can do to make colour selection and re-selection easier in the new UI and I've got a couple of ideas. Leave it with me.

You'll be pleased to hear I've just got drag-and-drop working with colours in the new UI.

So you'll be able to use the mouse to literally drag the colour property off of one edit dialog and drop it onto a colour property of another. I'll add this same functionality to the texture properties.]]> Wed, 09 Feb 2011 18:22:45 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from Neil ziggy72 wrote:
Sure - you select a block of text, click on the Format Painter button, and whatever you click on next has the same font, colour, size, etc applied to it as the first block of text. I could see something similiar in Muvizu, where the 'format' of one object could be applied to another (and not just colour, perhaps).

I see, thanks. I'll have a look at that and see if anything similar can be adopted for Muvizu.

ziggy72 wrote:
Oh right, you can drag the colour off the top and down onto the swatches. I did not know you could do that. Nice. Is that what you mean by using the custom colours?

Yup, that's the fella. Hopefully that'll help you along in the meantime.

I've been thinking about what I can do to make colour selection and re-selection easier in the new UI and I've got a couple of ideas. Leave it with me.]]> Wed, 09 Feb 2011 01:25:28 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from ziggy72 Neil wrote:
I'm unfamiliar with Word's Format Painter, could you please describe it? Ta. .


Sure - you select a block of text, click on the Format Painter button, and whatever you click on next has the same font, colour, size, etc applied to it as the first block of text. I could see something similiar in Muvizu, where the 'format' of one object could be applied to another (and not just colour, perhaps).

Neil wrote:
Have you used the custom colours in the colour picker? I understand that it's not what you're looking for, but would allow you to copy colours from one object to another without having to write down RGB values.


Actually I haven't - I don't quite know what you mean (must've missed that tutorial somewhere!). Hang on...

Oh right, you can drag the colour off the top and down onto the swatches. I did not know you could do that. Nice. Is that what you mean by using the custom colours?]]> Tue, 08 Feb 2011 21:57:53 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from Neil ziggy72 wrote:
@ Neil Thanks for the (in-depth!) reply, and I see what you mean about the difficulty of how to do it.

No worries. Sorry if it sounded snappy, it wasn't meant to be but I was in a rush for my train home. I just wanted to try and get across why some things that seem simple and have been consistently asked for (to quote Emily, "for over a year") haven't been done. We're a small team and although some things sound really simple and a great addition, we always have to balance them against our available resources and other priorities.


Keep the suggestions coming, please. I'm currently overhauling the UI and I'm very interested to hear how people think it can be improved. Many of your suggestions have been great.

ziggy72 wrote:
Personally, I usually just want to make one object the same colour as another, like the Format Painter in Word and the like, so I can clone the colour scheme from, say, one guitar to another. Is that more do-able, you think?


I'm unfamiliar with Word's Format Painter, could you please describe it? Ta.


Have you used the custom colours in the colour picker? I understand that it's not what you're looking for, but would allow you to copy colours from one object to another without having to write down RGB values.]]> Tue, 08 Feb 2011 20:56:35 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from ziggy72 Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:51:55 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from Neil Emily wrote:
Hey Ziggy & Dreeko - this is a feature I have been requesting for over a year!

Come over here and write it then, Em.

We've discussed it a few times in the office and the trouble is we have two ways of detecting the colour where you click:

1) Take the actual RGB value of the pixel you clicked on. This will likely not be the colour you were looking for because it's been affected by lights, shadows, etc.

2) The colour of the *thing* you clicked on. E.g. if you click on a table leg, and that table leg has been coloured brown, you select the same brown. To get this, we have to cast a ray through the scene to find that you clicked the table leg, then work out what material is on that table leg, and extract the colour.

I'm assuming what you want is #2, which is harder (although not impossible) to implement. We haven't done it yet because you can already copy colours from objects using the custom entries in the colour picker. Textures are even easier since there's an 'in use' category in the texture picker.

Sorry if that sounds lazy, but with the sheer number of feature requests we get, we tend to focus on: 1) fixing things that are broken then 2) adding things that you can't already do before 3) making more ways of doing something that can already be done. Don't take that to mean we'll never add a colour picker, though. Instead, take it to mean "we'll probably do it eventually, but what do you want first?"]]> Tue, 08 Feb 2011 18:58:52 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from jonbez ]]> Tue, 08 Feb 2011 17:35:26 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from Emily
In the meantime, here is a workaround (if you have Photoshop):

]]> Tue, 08 Feb 2011 17:21:57 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from ziggy72 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:53:56 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic880-colour-pickereyedropper.aspx Message from Dreeko
cheers

D]]> Mon, 07 Feb 2011 10:56:44 GMT